United Press Staff Correspondent LOS ANGELES, Oct. 25. - Attempts to impeach the testimony of Mrs. Lorraine Wiseman, self-confessed co-conspirator and chief state's witness in the Aimee Semple McPherson hearing, were launched today by the defense.

Superior Judge Carlos S. Hardy testified in behalf of Mrs. McPherson, who is accused of perpetrating a kidnaping hoax, that certain vital portions of Mrs. Wiseman's testimony were false.

The testimony which Judge Hardy attacked concerned asserted conversations with the state's witness. ''There was nothing like that said between us - that is not true,'' the defense witness declared in commenting on various statements made by Mrs. Wiseman on the witness stand in connection with alleged conversations between the woman and Judge Hardy. Believes Kidnaping Under cross examination Judge Hardy expressed the opinion that Mrs. McPherson was really kidnaped.

''Now judge,'' said the state's attorney, ''do you honestly believe Mrs. McPherson was kidnaped?''

''I believe she was kidnaped,'' replied the witness. ''I have no reason to believe otherwise.''

Mrs. Wiseman was visibly nervous while Judge Hardy gave his damaging testimony. She fidgeted in her chair and made notes of the jurist's remarks.

S. S. Hahn, who claims to be her attorney, created a mild sensation by requesting permission to leave the courtroom, after waiving the right to cross examine the defense witness.

''I want the court to excuse me,'' said Hahn, ''and I waive cross-examination of Judge Hardy. Mrs. Wiseman has agreed and is willing to sit through this testimony without having it questioned.''

''Mrs. Wiseman came to my office and told me she had spent a week or two at Carmel and Monterey,'' said Judge Hardy. ''She said she was at Carmel when Mr. Ryan was investigating there and had heard many of the witnesses, and had gathered many facts, which, she said, might be of importance to the district attorney.

She said she had suffered a sorrow and wanted to help Mrs. Mc-Pherson out.''

Judge Hardy then explained in detail how Mrs. Wiseman told him that she knew the sister of a ''Belle Owen'' and not Mrs. McPherson was at Carmel with Ormiston. She told of a plan to bring this woman back from the east, the judge said, where she had fled with the radio man.

'''Belle Owen, 'was not the real name,'' the witness said, explaining the description given him by Mrs. Wiseman.

Judge Hardy then told of a conversation with Dr. A. M. Waters, who committed suicide recently.

''Waters told me of seeing Ormiston drive away from the Biltmore hotel with a woman whom at first he thought was Mrs. McPherson,'' the witness continued. ''Waters was not positive of the time, but he believed it was some time during last May.

''Waters subsequently went to Angelus Temple and after seeing Mrs. McPherson there he was convinced that Ormiston's companion was not the evangelist.''

Defense attorney W. I. Gilbert repeated an announcement made two weeks ago that Mrs. McPherson would not be called to the stand during the current hearing to testify in her own defense. If the evangelist is bound over for trial she may testify, Gilbert said.

United Press Staff Correspondent LOS ANGELES, Oct. 25. - Attempts to impeach the testimony of Mrs. Lorraine Wiseman, self-confessed co-conspirator and chief state's witness in the Aimee Semple McPherson hearing, were launched today by the defense.

Superior Judge Carlos S. Hardy testified in behalf of Mrs. McPherson, who is accused of perpetrating a kidnaping hoax, that certain vital portions of Mrs. Wiseman's testimony were false.

The testimony which Judge Hardy attacked concerned asserted conversations with the state's witness. ''There was nothing like that said between us - that is not true,'' the defense witness declared in commenting on various statements made by Mrs. Wiseman on the witness stand in connection with alleged conversations between the woman and Judge Hardy. Believes Kidnaping Under cross examination Judge Hardy expressed the opinion that Mrs. McPherson was really kidnaped.

''Now judge,'' said the state's attorney, ''do you honestly believe Mrs. McPherson was kidnaped?''

''I believe she was kidnaped,'' replied the witness. ''I have no reason to believe otherwise.''

Mrs. Wiseman was visibly nervous while Judge Hardy gave his damaging testimony. She fidgeted in her chair and made notes of the jurist's remarks.

S. S. Hahn, who claims to be her attorney, created a mild sensation by requesting permission to leave the courtroom, after waiving the right to cross examine the defense witness.

''I want the court to excuse me,'' said Hahn, ''and I waive cross-examination of Judge Hardy. Mrs. Wiseman has agreed and is willing to sit through this testimony without having it questioned.''

''Mrs. Wiseman came to my office and told me she had spent a week or two at Carmel and Monterey,'' said Judge Hardy. ''She said she was at Carmel when Mr. Ryan was investigating there and had heard many of the witnesses, and had gathered many facts, which, she said, might be of importance to the district attorney.

She said she had suffered a sorrow and wanted to help Mrs. Mc-Pherson out.''

Judge Hardy then explained in detail how Mrs. Wiseman told him that she knew the sister of a ''Belle Owen'' and not Mrs. McPherson was at Carmel with Ormiston. She told of a plan to bring this woman back from the east, the judge said, where she had fled with the radio man.

'''Belle Owen, 'was not the real name,'' the witness said, explaining the description given him by Mrs. Wiseman.

Judge Hardy then told of a conversation with Dr. A. M. Waters, who committed suicide recently.

''Waters told me of seeing Ormiston drive away from the Biltmore hotel with a woman whom at first he thought was Mrs. McPherson,'' the witness continued. ''Waters was not positive of the time, but he believed it was some time during last May.

''Waters subsequently went to Angelus Temple and after seeing Mrs. McPherson there he was convinced that Ormiston's companion was not the evangelist.''

Defense attorney W. I. Gilbert repeated an announcement made two weeks ago that Mrs. McPherson would not be called to the stand during the current hearing to testify in her own defense. If the evangelist is bound over for trial she may testify, Gilbert said.

United Press Staff Correspondent LOS ANGELES, Oct. 25. - Attempts to impeach the testimony of Mrs. Lorraine Wiseman, self-confessed co-conspirator and chief state's witness in the Aimee Semple McPherson hearing, were launched today by the defense.

Superior Judge Carlos S. Hardy testified in behalf of Mrs. McPherson, who is accused of perpetrating a kidnaping hoax, that certain vital portions of Mrs. Wiseman's testimony were false.

The testimony which Judge Hardy attacked concerned asserted conversations with the state's witness. ''There was nothing like that said between us - that is not true,'' the defense witness declared in commenting on various statements made by Mrs. Wiseman on the witness stand in connection with alleged conversations between the woman and Judge Hardy. Believes Kidnaping Under cross examination Judge Hardy expressed the opinion that Mrs. McPherson was really kidnaped.

''Now judge,'' said the state's attorney, ''do you honestly believe Mrs. McPherson was kidnaped?''

''I believe she was kidnaped,'' replied the witness. ''I have no reason to believe otherwise.''

Mrs. Wiseman was visibly nervous while Judge Hardy gave his damaging testimony. She fidgeted in her chair and made notes of the jurist's remarks.

S. S. Hahn, who claims to be her attorney, created a mild sensation by requesting permission to leave the courtroom, after waiving the right to cross examine the defense witness.

''I want the court to excuse me,'' said Hahn, ''and I waive cross-examination of Judge Hardy. Mrs. Wiseman has agreed and is willing to sit through this testimony without having it questioned.''

''Mrs. Wiseman came to my office and told me she had spent a week or two at Carmel and Monterey,'' said Judge Hardy. ''She said she was at Carmel when Mr. Ryan was investigating there and had heard many of the witnesses, and had gathered many facts, which, she said, might be of importance to the district attorney.

She said she had suffered a sorrow and wanted to help Mrs. Mc-Pherson out.''

Judge Hardy then explained in detail how Mrs. Wiseman told him that she knew the sister of a ''Belle Owen'' and not Mrs. McPherson was at Carmel with Ormiston. She told of a plan to bring this woman back from the east, the judge said, where she had fled with the radio man.

'''Belle Owen, 'was not the real name,'' the witness said, explaining the description given him by Mrs. Wiseman.

Judge Hardy then told of a conversation with Dr. A. M. Waters, who committed suicide recently.

''Waters told me of seeing Ormiston drive away from the Biltmore hotel with a woman whom at first he thought was Mrs. McPherson,'' the witness continued. ''Waters was not positive of the time, but he believed it was some time during last May.

''Waters subsequently went to Angelus Temple and after seeing Mrs. McPherson there he was convinced that Ormiston's companion was not the evangelist.''

Defense attorney W. I. Gilbert repeated an announcement made two weeks ago that Mrs. McPherson would not be called to the stand during the current hearing to testify in her own defense. If the evangelist is bound over for trial she may testify, Gilbert said.

United Press Staff Correspondent LOS ANGELES, Oct. 25. - Attempts to impeach the testimony of Mrs. Lorraine Wiseman, self-confessed co-conspirator and chief state's witness in the Aimee Semple McPherson hearing, were launched today by the defense.

Superior Judge Carlos S. Hardy testified in behalf of Mrs. McPherson, who is accused of perpetrating a kidnaping hoax, that certain vital portions of Mrs. Wiseman's testimony were false.

The testimony which Judge Hardy attacked concerned asserted conversations with the state's witness. ''There was nothing like that said between us - that is not true,'' the defense witness declared in commenting on various statements made by Mrs. Wiseman on the witness stand in connection with alleged conversations between the woman and Judge Hardy. Believes Kidnaping Under cross examination Judge Hardy expressed the opinion that Mrs. McPherson was really kidnaped.

''Now judge,'' said the state's attorney, ''do you honestly believe Mrs. McPherson was kidnaped?''

''I believe she was kidnaped,'' replied the witness. ''I have no reason to believe otherwise.''

Mrs. Wiseman was visibly nervous while Judge Hardy gave his damaging testimony. She fidgeted in her chair and made notes of the jurist's remarks.

S. S. Hahn, who claims to be her attorney, created a mild sensation by requesting permission to leave the courtroom, after waiving the right to cross examine the defense witness.

''I want the court to excuse me,'' said Hahn, ''and I waive cross-examination of Judge Hardy. Mrs. Wiseman has agreed and is willing to sit through this testimony without having it questioned.''

''Mrs. Wiseman came to my office and told me she had spent a week or two at Carmel and Monterey,'' said Judge Hardy. ''She said she was at Carmel when Mr. Ryan was investigating there and had heard many of the witnesses, and had gathered many facts, which, she said, might be of importance to the district attorney.

She said she had suffered a sorrow and wanted to help Mrs. Mc-Pherson out.''

Judge Hardy then explained in detail how Mrs. Wiseman told him that she knew the sister of a ''Belle Owen'' and not Mrs. McPherson was at Carmel with Ormiston. She told of a plan to bring this woman back from the east, the judge said, where she had fled with the radio man.

'''Belle Owen, 'was not the real name,'' the witness said, explaining the description given him by Mrs. Wiseman.

Judge Hardy then told of a conversation with Dr. A. M. Waters, who committed suicide recently.

''Waters told me of seeing Ormiston drive away from the Biltmore hotel with a woman whom at first he thought was Mrs. McPherson,'' the witness continued. ''Waters was not positive of the time, but he believed it was some time during last May.

''Waters subsequently went to Angelus Temple and after seeing Mrs. McPherson there he was convinced that Ormiston's companion was not the evangelist.''

Defense attorney W. I. Gilbert repeated an announcement made two weeks ago that Mrs. McPherson would not be called to the stand during the current hearing to testify in her own defense. If the evangelist is bound over for trial she may testify, Gilbert said.

United Press Staff Correspondent LOS ANGELES, Oct. 25. - Attempts to impeach the testimony of Mrs. Lorraine Wiseman, self-confessed co-conspirator and chief state's witness in the Aimee Semple McPherson hearing, were launched today by the defense.

Superior Judge Carlos S. Hardy testified in behalf of Mrs. McPherson, who is accused of perpetrating a kidnaping hoax, that certain vital portions of Mrs. Wiseman's testimony were false.

The testimony which Judge Hardy attacked concerned asserted conversations with the state's witness. ''There was nothing like that said between us - that is not true,'' the defense witness declared in commenting on various statements made by Mrs. Wiseman on the witness stand in connection with alleged conversations between the woman and Judge Hardy. Believes Kidnaping Under cross examination Judge Hardy expressed the opinion that Mrs. McPherson was really kidnaped.

''Now judge,'' said the state's attorney, ''do you honestly believe Mrs. McPherson was kidnaped?''

''I believe she was kidnaped,'' replied the witness. ''I have no reason to believe otherwise.''

Mrs. Wiseman was visibly nervous while Judge Hardy gave his damaging testimony. She fidgeted in her chair and made notes of the jurist's remarks.

S. S. Hahn, who claims to be her attorney, created a mild sensation by requesting permission to leave the courtroom, after waiving the right to cross examine the defense witness.

''I want the court to excuse me,'' said Hahn, ''and I waive cross-examination of Judge Hardy. Mrs. Wiseman has agreed and is willing to sit through this testimony without having it questioned.''

''Mrs. Wiseman came to my office and told me she had spent a week or two at Carmel and Monterey,'' said Judge Hardy. ''She said she was at Carmel when Mr. Ryan was investigating there and had heard many of the witnesses, and had gathered many facts, which, she said, might be of importance to the district attorney.

She said she had suffered a sorrow and wanted to help Mrs. Mc-Pherson out.''

Judge Hardy then explained in detail how Mrs. Wiseman told him that she knew the sister of a ''Belle Owen'' and not Mrs. McPherson was at Carmel with Ormiston. She told of a plan to bring this woman back from the east, the judge said, where she had fled with the radio man.

'''Belle Owen, 'was not the real name,'' the witness said, explaining the description given him by Mrs. Wiseman.

Judge Hardy then told of a conversation with Dr. A. M. Waters, who committed suicide recently.

''Waters told me of seeing Ormiston drive away from the Biltmore hotel with a woman whom at first he thought was Mrs. McPherson,'' the witness continued. ''Waters was not positive of the time, but he believed it was some time during last May.

''Waters subsequently went to Angelus Temple and after seeing Mrs. McPherson there he was convinced that Ormiston's companion was not the evangelist.''

Defense attorney W. I. Gilbert repeated an announcement made two weeks ago that Mrs. McPherson would not be called to the stand during the current hearing to testify in her own defense. If the evangelist is bound over for trial she may testify, Gilbert said.